Secondary Symptoms #2:

Not So Fast

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Not So Fast

It’s going to take a while, but we find glimmers of hope.

We speak to Guardian journalist Samanth Subramanian. He tells the story of one lab’s push for a COVID-19 vaccine, and the promising new technology they’re using. It just might revolutionize vaccine development. But don’t get too excited, because the fastest vaccine ever… well, it took about four years.

While we wait, the US political system is going through a pretty radical transformation. Wired science journalist Adam Rogers highlights how states are forming regional alliances, threatening to create what he calls “a new cold civil war.” Plus, Rogers gives us an update on how academic publishing is changing during the pandemic.

Guests (in order of appearance):


This episode was produced by Jay Cockburn and Gordon Katic.

Our theme song and original music is by our composer, Mike Barber. Dakota Koop is our graphic designer. Our production manager is David Tobiasz, and executive producers are Gordon Katic and Sam Fenn.

This episode was funded in part by the Social Science and Humanities Research Council of Canada. This is part of wider project looking at the politics of science in post-truth times. Dr. Dave Ng at the University of British Columbia is the research lead on that project.

Cited is produced out of the Centre of Ethics at the University of Toronto, which is on the traditional land of Mississaugas of the Credit, the Anishnabeg, the Chippewa, the Haudenosaunee and the Wendat Peoples. Cited is also produced out of the Michael Smith Laboratories at the University of British Columbia -- that’s on the unceded territories of the Musqueam, Squamish, and Tsleil-Waututh Nations.