- First (@8:16), Andre Gagne is a former evangelical, once “saved,” who turned away from the light of the Church to become a professor. He talks about what he found in the church, the power of “narrative theology,” why he left the church, and why so much of the evangelical experience is powerful – and disconcerting.
- Then (@37:24), Chrissy Stroop is an author, activist, and former Christian who has gone from Jesusland to Twitterland. She shares her journey with Gordon, including her creation of #emptythepews, a hashtag that marks the stories of people leaving the church. She warns of the power of fundamentalist enclaves, powerful ecosystems that exist on their own but also reach into the world to draw entrants into them.
- Finally (@1:03:21), Bradley Onishi is a pastor turned professor turned podcaster who Ben Shapiro calls “that religion professor.” He takes on the so-called intellectuals of the far right through his academic research and the podcast he co-hosts with Dan Miller, Straight White American Jesus. Onishi doing his part to keep the discourse honest, a job that is as essential as it is Sisyphean.
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